Do you want some more detailed refactoring plans, before sending the first pull requests? privacy statement. The pcb is our first design using the SAM4S so were using all the experience we gained designing the K-Type and Type C WhiteFox to make the Kira even better. These are generally released around the same time as the case. I'm not familiar with mbed either. QMK started as a fork of TMK by /u/jackhumbert for his boards, but has now grown into a community project, supporting over 40 different keyboards, and several handwired ones. VIA consists of two parts: Firmware and VIA Configurator. These were all fixed using the new the Self-Testing KLL build feature. The LEDs in any Input Club keyboard will not turn on until USB has been fully negotiated. Really though, all this work was done in order to prepare for state scheduling testing (also known as short/long press or tap keys). The ported and moved keymaps could have a readme file in the old location, which tells that they can now be found in the ergodox_common folder. I understand @tmk's desire to control everything, and keep everything up to his standards. Additionally I don't see why the Ergodox EZ and Infinity Ergodox keymaps could not be shared, even if they have different underlying hardware. But now, with our sleek and streamlined keyboards, with no arrow cluster or spaced function row, there are very few places to put components on the pcb that wont interfere with the keyboard switches. So the question is, can just compile the code with my layout and flash it, or should I better recreate my layout in Infinity's web configurator? @fredizzimo Yes, sorry I wasn't more clear, but I've made the indicated edits to the file. There's also a question of adding ChibiOS as a git subtree or submodule. I was also planning to get rid of the mbed specific common.mk file, as it's almost the same as the common.mk file in the tmk_core directory, and otherwise ChibiOS would have yet another variant. First off, introductions of the team are in order. LCD screen, change LED brightness, etc.). Now I will get even less work done as I seek out that perfect layout. QMK/VIA Support; Double-Gasket design; Full-metal body; South-facing RGB; PBT keycaps; Screw-in Stabilizers; Upgraded typing resonance Scroll to the right for more model comparison. The Infinity version would probably use it's own visualizer though. The Kiibohd firmware supports a lot of other keyboards, but these are more obscure/custom/lesser known. About mbed: this is purely a HAL, supports a lot of MCUs, but uses C++ and it's geared towards the usage in their online IDE. Well occasionally send you account related emails. Built with Docusaurus. Parak, the ebay master responsible for most of HaaTas keyboard collection, is a proficient collector in tools of great quality (such as IBM keyboards) in his own right. Already on GitHub? Instead I should probably create a template to be used for chibios projects, or what do you think @jackhumbert. The BusPirate and OpenOCD are used in manufacturing, though we use JTAG if possible (same cable, much faster but is not supported by all MCUs). Not that I have any say in this, but I'd personally prefer ChibiOS as a submodule - the main repo is 130MB (out of which 47MB is .git), and given that majority of people won't actually use it {of course you can prune it quite a lot, but then it's going to be more difficult to pull the upstream changes}. However, to fully utilize the RGBness of the K-Type a high frame rate required using the majority of the CPU time servicing animationsinstead of scanning for keypresses. One cool feature of the SAM4S is the built-in bootloader SAM-BA. The kll-spec repo contains the KLL spec (written in LaTex). This history buffer is compared to what was expected, using the kll.json information. If nothing happens, download Xcode and try again. The QMK Documentation page is pretty expansive, and tries to document all features available. So the physical reset button at the bottom of the PCB should always take you there, and you are able to flash another working firmware, including the original kiibohd firmware. --> Wiki <-- If you have questions start here. Upon flashing the teensy with it I get usb device not recognized errors. All-in-all, just better. It should be pretty easy to get running on Atmel AVR USB based boards (e.g., HHKB, Atomic, Planck, ErgoDox, Phantom, NerD). This is where VIA steps in. https://www.inputclub.comhttps://configurator.inputclub.comhttps://github.com/kiibohd/kiiconf/wikiThis video covers how to use layers on your Input Club keyb. That's why software such as QMK/VIA or Vial exist and are getting popular. A fork of the McHCK SWD flashing utility for the BusPirate. If you run into any issues with "Device not found" when flashing, then you may need to use Zadig to fix the issue. In the ideal world I would like to see that QMK and TMK are joined together. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Just as a data point: I haven't been using my Infinity because I a few times daily get stuck in one of the layers but have no feedback. The latest version of the configurator (its auto-updating! ) It seems like it is closed for now and there is no way to contribute or fix bugs. The only thing I was not sure about was OPT_DEFS = -DCORTEX_VTOR_INIT=0x00001000 i tried both leaving it alone and commenting it out. So before starting to work on this, I'm asking what do you think? Even the ones that are basically impossible to trigger on a physical keyboard (e.g. It's however clear that the keymaps won't be compatible by default though, some sort of porting would be needed. Both Travis-CI and Appveyor are used to automate the release generation. LED support). This will be the first keyboard design since 2015 to use a new MCU! The mbed library is currently located in the tmk_core\tool\mbed\mbed-sdk directory. The biggest chance of bricking it would probably be to flash it more than 10000 times, after which the flash memory might start to fail. Two comments about the above things: Infinity 60% is already done also with Chibios. Weve been hard at work on the keyboard firmware since the K-Type launched working on bugs and adding new features. You signed in with another tab or window. help. Manufacturing before Chinese Lunar New Year has put a damper on configurator development, but it should start to ramp-up again soon. I have made more keymap changes in a week than in months previously. And only then the other keyboards can use it. at 37.5MB compressed (without .git). Or better yet, figure out how to build your own! The ability to change rotary encoder keycodes has been recently added to VIA, but not all keyboards have added support for it yet. One of the major improvements to the firmware was moving from a single execution loop to two concurrent threads. It also contains the code which publishes the graph data onto Plotly. I was able to compile using the Makefile file for lc but I couldn't do it with the Makefile.3.2. I like the refactoring changes in tmk_core#19 and would merge that, but I'd like to reserve the right to make some other big refactoring changes myself in the future :) exactly what that entails, I'm not sure at this time. But especially the visualization one could be useful for a lot of keyboards. But for me as a contributor, it's an almost impossible situation, as I see so much potential, but I'm unable to do anything about it. But in addition to just copying the rules.mk file, you also need to edit it, like I tried to explain in my previous message. At the moment the tmk core contains quite a bit of duplicated code for different controllers, and in many places the required hardware abstraction layer is missing. Agreed. When a key is undefined on a particular layer, the key definition on the previously stacked layer will be used. Or said a different way, both input and outputs are known ahead of time ! Prior to the K-Type, the only heavy lifting the MCU had to do was scan keys, send updates to USB and occasionally update some peripherals (e.g. C functions). This includes things such as all defined KLL capabilities, per-layer trigger:result pairs and physical keymapping. Hardware and software maker community based around ortholinear or ergonomic keyboards and QMK firmware. That said, I will soon(today) send a pull request that completely disables the LCD, LCD backlight, and the LEDs, so that it's completely usable without them, until I'm able to add proper support. kiibohd seems to compile and run fine on this controller. Stuff like holding an f key to change a layer as long as I hold the key or tapping the f key to lock the layer (ACTION_LAYER_TAP_TOGGLE in tmk/qmk), running custom code on a key press (ACTION_FUNCTION_TAP) or having dual roles for a key, like ALT when held or APP when tapped (ALT_T(KC_APP) in qmk) seems to be missing in the Kiibohd firmware. Recent commits have higher weight than older ones. It was designed to handle both layout mapping as well as LED configuration for you keyboard. Note: Via and Vial are tools for remapping a QMK keyboard layout. But I haven't had any test reports for my latest fixes yet. More SRAM for code, more flash for animations, more Hz for spamming USB packets over the interwebs. These highly customizable software (QMK, VIA, and Vial) are getting more traction among users and it can really enhance the typing experience for most users. Why QMK/VIA is one of the most essential features for a custom keyboard? And while all our code and designs are opensource and up on GitHub it can be overwhelming (even for engineers!) Our most recent release is v0.4.1. If you want to use the teensyduino IDE, Matt30's guide may be way more complicated than you need. Then, to support all of the hardware specific calls, Python callbacks were implemented with Scan and Output. But those two are very unlikely to happen during normal use. I will start to work on it immediately, but without promising any time table, as I'm probably not very likely to get much done before my summer holidays start in a couple of weeks. Not to mention, the team has optimized the VIA with compatibility across Windows, Mac and Linux. QMK Firmware has a lots of features, like supporting multiple layers, macros, Mod-Tap, mouse keys, split keyboards, backlighting, RGB, etc., which makes it a popular choice for hobbyists. This is the main Kiibohd Firmware. Finally: it's of course possible to do away with accessing the registers directly, and there are 2 notable successful efforts {both only for one particular family of ARM chips, namely Freescale/NXP Kinetis - this covers Teensy 3.x, LC and Input Club's keyboards}, namely PJRC's arduino core for Teensies and Jacob's (a.k.a. To prevent flickering, each LED frame must be serviced as quickly as possible. The firmware flashed to the keyboard must have VIA support enabled, and you can find pre-compiled .hex/.bin firmware files with VIA support here: VIA Firmware Downloads. I also noticed that the mbed library is currently unused, since the keyboards which were using it are now all deleted, so maybe I should start of by deleting all mbed functionality completely? Note that just because your keyboard is listed there doesn't mean that you can immediately use VIA Configurator with it. It is still being . Written for the infinity and infinity ergodox keyboards, Support for Teensy 2 (partial), Teensy 2.0++, Teensy 3.0, Teensy 3.1, aims to be easy to use as the name suggests, Compatible with a wide range of keyboards/PCBs, for example Costar replacements controllers, JD40, various Duck keyboards, Phantom, Very terse, abstract keyboard layout and wiring description, Uses C++17 templates to generate the code for your firmware, Set the output pins (typically columns) and the input pins (typically rows), Loop across the matrix, turning on one output pin and reading each input pin, Using the row/column position of the key, decide what to do (send keypress, change layers, whatever), If a key was pressed, add it to the buffer, When the whole matrix has been read, send the buffer over USB. They share a lot of code obviously, but our recent diverge from forkship just shows how differently they're growing. Please Use Git or checkout with SVN using the web URL. They are usually a good deal for both beginners and enthusiasts because this line-up aims to cover most layouts from compact to full-size as well. @fredizzimo I'd be happy to test the QMK port on my Infinity(ies) if you need an extra set of hands/eyes. Since most of the QMK/VIA compatible keyboards are not wireless enabled. A tag already exists with the provided branch name. ChibiOS will be added as a submodule, at least initially, as that way it won't grow the repository size, and we can always move to subtrees later. Awesome! Inventor of KLL, main firmware engineer for Input Club, keyboard collector, measurer of force curves, Hako/Halo switch inventor and designer of keyboards at Input Club. But perhaps the biggest one is that I can't seem to get my pull requests accepted, at least not within a reasonable time. The KLL compiler was started in the summer of 2014 while the KLL spec has origins all the way back to 2011 . The KLL compiler supports multiple emitters, so while it currently supports kiibohd, KLL (yes it can regenerate back to a KLL file) and none (syntax checking), it is possible to add KLL support to other keyboard firmwares just by adding a new emitter. With this information a test can be generated for each possible key combination on each layer and what the result of each test should be. Referral/affiliate links, subreddits ads, begging, and low-effort posts will be removed. A modular community keyboard firmware for everyone. The biggest challenge moving the Infinity Ergodox support to the QMK firmware is that there's no support for ChibiOS at the moment. Even though remapping software and custom keyboards are getting more traction among enthusiasts and even beginners, you still cant fully customize every key (and different layers) on a keyboard and you may need to set up everything again (without onboard memory) when you use another laptop or PC. Indeed, its not perfect. The Kiibohd firmware supports a lot of other keyboards, but these are more obscure/custom/lesser known. Both were designed as protocol converters, and both started with the PJRC Teensy 2.0. QMK ( Quantum Mechanical Keyboard) is an open source community centered around developing computer input devices. So, if someone wants to at least somewhat support different manufacturers, there are basically 2 choices these days: ChibiOS and mbed. Specifically these need to be changed. Capabilities that are thread-safe may be called immediately inside the periodic thread, while non-thread-safe capabilities must be queued up for the polling thread. Oh wasn't aware of that limitation, I need a second split for home/work and was hoping to put rotary encoders on that one! I would actually like to add support for PC at some point quite shortly afterwards. The tests not only require interaction with the newly generated kiibohd.so, but also what the input and outputs of trigger:result pairs are. Note that by default, most keyboards do not have the VIA_ENABLE feature enabled. GitHub Download Usage Kiibohd_Configurator is available as an AppImage which means "one app = one file", which you can download and run on your Linux system while you don't need a package manager and nothing gets changed in your system. Sign in You can find the schematic for one of the later versions of the capsense controller on our GitHub (was originally hosted on Gitorious which closed) which was named DPH for dfj, parak and HaaTa. This is a relatively new repo forked from libwdi by smasher816. We opensource (CERN OHL) the schematic, layout, BOM (bill of materials) as well as the gerbers used to manufacture the pcbs. I love VIA! However, were moving away from NXPs (originally Freescales) Kinetis K20 line and onto Microchips (originally Atmels) SAM4S line of MCUs. Just follow the QMK documentation (i.e. I had to flash each side of my Iris (split kb). Any sort of combined repo would just be frustrating for both @tmk and the collaborators here (or maybe just me). You can think of it as two different threads: one that runs consistently and reliably for key scanning and the other as fast as it can to deal with animations. And, instead of scanning all the keys, then processing all the LEDs, just process one strobe (matrix column) of keys at a time. No compilation or flashing required, so it means a 10 second and easy change. This means KLL defines what were expecting to happen, which for those software engineers out there means that this is actually a constrained problem that can be unit tested. Some considerations for minimum specs: It's possible to port chips with lower specs, but will be more effort and have fewer features. Work fast with our official CLI. Keyboards used to have big bezels because you could place your keyboard controller chips in those areas. Feel free to use kiidrv in your own projects as its fully opensource under GPLv3 and LGPLv3, and just a useful tool in general. It supports auto-detection and auto-flashing of firmware to keyboards. Furthermore I have added an visualization emulator for the Infinity Ergodox that can be run from Windows. VIA support needs to be compiled in as an option in QMK. Share By default on most VIA-supported keyboards, there is a limit of 4 layers. to figure out what weve actually been working on. 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