Mag. as a hunter ,reloaded and a gun dealer I always point out to people interested in a accurate flat shooting cartridges I tell them 264 win.mag,270 weatherby mag or a 257 weatherby mag because all 3 are great cartridges and have a lot less recoil that the bigger magnums. A 264 needs slow burning powder, anything faster than H-4831 is to fast for the 264 with 140gr bullets. bozo699 Oct 18, 2010 #5 Mag., and it really comes into its own with carefully developed high-performance handloads. Its not my all-time favorite elk cartridge, but its a really, really close second. You might want to consider taking a second rifle as a backup. Of all the costs involved in hunting what is the price of a Box of 50 bullets cost ? It was my choice when I drew a limited entry Utah tag and dropped a 402 B&C gross (official) non-typical with one 180-grain Federal TBT. .tg .th-lmno { It's all copper with an expanding nose. factory load in every category. background-color: #efefef; Much like the .30-06, the .270 Winchester is an all-around workhorse. Shots near the max effective range can totally miss the animal if you misjudge the distance by 50-yards. If I wanted a load that would be good for close in out to 600 or maybe a little more, I would look at the heaviest hammer bullet that your twist will stabilize. Hornady 180-grain GMX and 200-grain ELD-X. A. However, it possesses authority in spades, and when paired with a fast-handling lever-action its a classic favorite of big-woods hunters. Good for you. Note that the .264 Win. Would be a great project rifle to put a proper barrel on. At magnum velocities, the soft bullets tended to fragment and fail to penetrate adequately. While this does protect the bullet from deformation during recoil and during travel up the feedramp and into the chamber, its more important function is to limit potentially explosive expansion (as a result of high velocity) upon impact. LOL! This article does not serve as the final say, but simply as a starting point for beginner hunters, as well as a venue for further discussion. BTW, 264 WM and Berger bullets seem like kind of an odd combination in my book, unless this a coyote rig. In purely practical terms, no elk cartridge equals the beautifully balanced .300 Win. The 6.5 Creedmoor, with its .264-inch bullet, was designed as a long-range target cartridge because at modest velocity with low recoil, it could take advantage of the 6.5's heavy-for-caliber bullets, and with a short case designed for accuracy, it could handle long bullets in a short bolt action. . Unless you really like this particular rifle or simply want a .264 it is not that much diff than your current offering. I was taught as long as they're standing, put another round in. Yet - aside from a small group of followers of cult-like loyalty - it has never gained the affection of the American hunter. Mag. Its extremely versatile with a broad selection of bullet weights, and with the right bullet is a great long-range performer. The number on the chart below is the distance in yards at which this standard is no longer met. 264 would be very close to your 280 you already have. when I was a kid and poor I always wanted a 264 win. font-family: Arial, sans-serif; vertical-align: top It'll maintain nearly 100% of its weight and plow an impressive furrow. Also, remember that the data in the table above is using averages of multiple loads per cartridge. Just $1 per month , Find a tough cartridge for one of the most prizedand toughestbig game animals around, We may earn revenue from the products available on this page and participate in affiliate programs. DRT. The next day the same rifle took a 5x5 bull at 400 yds with ease. He handed me a hand full of shells he's been hunting with. Handloaders easily equal or outdo factory-load performancesomething that cant be said of the other fast .30s listed here. Isnt it smart to have a buffer and not go to the utmost maximum? Yes - historically. I have a 26" shilen barrel. Pretty darn confident to use it to fill all of the tags this year, including the cow elk. The 140 gr .264 bullet has about the same SD as a 200 gr .308 bullet. When used in any of our 6.5's it gives complete penetration. Introduced in 1959, the .264 Win. 2 grains and fire another 10 rounds. That results in a 500-yard drop of 42.3 inches when zeroed at 200 yards. Im not an elk hunter, but I have followed this page for years and have seen a lot of people on here and other places harvest elk. Yes. because the latter rolls out those wide, .338-inch diameter 250-grain bullets. Used to use the Nosler 140gr partition at 3200+ but have found the Barnes 120gr TSX will out penetrate it. 3400+ from a 24" Bbl. In essence, good elk cartridges drive tough, heavy bullets of healthy diameter, and drive em fast. Custom Mossberg 500 at the Range and Live Turkey!? Its plenty gun for elk. The .264 Win will do fine. It does not penetrate like the Accubond but has never let me down either. UPS has officially stopped shipping guns? You should always start low & work up. Heres a link to it. border-spacing: 0; } Though it's more than a half-century old, the .264 Winchester Magnum is one of the few niche cartridges that is as yet unsurpassed by the motley assortment of modern magnums. Mark R Dobrenski. It's not loaded particularly hot; factory figures suggest a muzzle velocity of 3,030 fps from a 24-inch barrel. The .270 Win. Joined: Dec 2004. Took my best bull with it on public land in 2014. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. Would I do it again..? Partitions, AccuBond or Barnes, all good bullets. When you get to kill ( notice I did not say ", i like your style (and agree with your conclusions) CR. For excessively rugged, steep-canyon elk country such as Idahos River Of No Return wilderness, such a rifle could mean the difference between steaks and tag soup. Mag and the .458 Win. 300 Win Mag.Perfect for Elk? vertical-align: top The E-Tip bullet is another great option for deep penetration. Right up front, this is a short-range proposition. Are You blued steel, 1 inch & fine wood or are you Kevlar, carbon, stainless, 30-34mm?. Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. Though not quite as aerodynamic in shape, and sporting a good bit of exposed lead at the nose, impact result on deer-size game is typically spectacular. Alas, Remington and its new-in-1962 7mm Remington Magnum dealt a resounding deathblow to the .264 Win. Toen ik mijn vorige kamer huurde moest ik ook 150 contractkosten betalen, waarna iemand me erop wees dat dit illegaal is. I once bought a 25-06 off a guy who told me that the caliber was too light for whitetail. You might have a superhuman ability to place accurate shots under heavy recoil. Dropping a bull cleanly takes a good cartridge. No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's. A good .30-06 is a 99% solution. The .264 Winchester Magnum is a magnum-length cartridge developed by Winchester Repeating Arms in 1959. Joined: Apr 2001. factory ammunition (though only one load each, in basic, nonpremium lines), Nosler offers a premium load in its Trophy Grade line, and ProGrade lists a whopping three loads in its Hunting Grade line. However, the goal of this article is simply to address the question of whether the .264 Winchester Magnum is within the ideal range of suitable calibers to harvest elk. 3400+ from a 24" Bbl. We have an article on Backfire that goes a bit deeper into long-range hunting cartridges and bullet selection. and 6.5 PRC, but the 6.5-.284 Norma still provides significantly more velocity than the 6.5 Creedmoor. In stock. Give a Gift Learn more . Colordo elk hunt cartridge selection for .300 win mag. Maintained energy at each range is 1,813 ft-lbs and 1,319 ft-lbs respectively. . Leave nothing to chance, because great things dont happen on accident. The question is, are detached retinas worth it? For pure downrange performance, Nosler's 130-grain AccuBond load banishes both of the above in disgrace. JavaScript is disabled. I have a 264 in a Remington M700 w/stainless barrel ..I hunted Colorado for 40 years with it guiding/packing with and for my rancher friends around Steamboat Springs ..The guys (Rancher ..the daddy and 3 sons) out there loved that 264 ..so much so I just quit carrying it back and forth and just left it with the ranch ..I have not hunted elk now in several years but left the rifle there just keeping a finger in the "game" so to speak ..well a couple of years ago I'm called to their pappy's burial and I go ..at the ranch house after the services the 3 boys get to talking about the 264 ..the shots their dad made with it ..shots they made with it ..they got to doing tally's..laughing and grinning ..I'm sure with some fudge factor ..but their family tally alone was over 100 Mule deer and elk ..not counting my small contribution to the tally. He averaged 1 1/2 shots per animal. I'm sure it will be OK as long as you stay within its limitations. Never , never shoot 5 shot groups. Know how well you shoot in different conditions and trust your skills. Just like the title says is it a good choice. Known as an ideal cartridge for medium-sized game, the .270 is more gun that most people give it credit for. Yes, it lacks one of the three virtues vital to great elk cartridges. "So much of this business of hunting turkeys, you stupid it up right at the last. For all its virtues, like the 6.5 Creedmoor the 6.5 PRC just doesnt have the bullet diameter and weight to handle steeply angled shot presentations. It shoots faster and flatter than any standard-length magnum other than the .257 Weatherby, it hits with undeniable authority at extended ranges courtesy of the extraordinary aerodynamics of its 6.5mm-diameter projectiles, and it recoils with unexpected politeness for such a high performer. Yes. The bull elk is North Americas toughest hooved big-game animal. I never kept another one in a deer. For the distances your going to be shooting at elk any sacrifice in bc's will be minimal. If you hunt massive-bodied Roosevelt bulls in the rain forests of the Northwest, or pine clad ridges and canyon bottoms anyplace where 200 yards is a long shot, this is a prime cartridge. Originally Posted by RED53. memtb. Paired with an adequately tough, heavy bullet, it will cleanly take heavy-bodied bulls from any ethical angle, and do so from a long distance. Distance Bullet Carries Less Than 1,500 ft-lbs of Energy - This standard is used for elk-sized game such as kudu, moose, a waterbuck, a young eland, etc. Those loads use very aerodynamic bullets that retain lots of kinetic energy and deliver excellent extended range performance on deer and elk-sized game. I left it out because with its gargantuan powder capacity its almost too much of a good thing. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Nomo, all of those powders you listed will work. They'd rather see a hunter show up in camp with a .270 he can shoot lights out than a large belted magnum he can't. Behind the Bullet: .264 Winchester Magnum "So much of this business of hunting turkeys, you stupid it up right at the last. Bang flop. Happy Trails. Re: 264 Win Mag for hunting, what do you think. Still, reasonable maximum-accuracy life expectancy is around 700 to 1,000 rounds. As an owner of a .264 Winchester Magnum, Craig Boddington's article on using a .264 Winchester Magnum in Africa was interesting. It will break heavy bone, penetrate deep and straight, and kill quickly and cleanly. The average 130-grain .277-diameter bullet struggles to achieve a BC of much more than 0.450, while even a moderately aerodynamic 140-grain .264 bullet approaches 0.500, and a streamlined one, such as Berger's 140-grain Hunting VLD, offers an astonishing 0.612. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. } Not all bullets are Max-Range bullets. } To get longer barrel life, then just nitride it and hammer away. Mag. I'm getting 3100 fps using 140 gr Berger VLDs. The shot was just behind the front leg. The .264 is s great all-around for most big game animals in North America. Shot placement, bullet construction, and animal individuality will all dramatically impact the effectiveness of the bullet. All Shooting Times subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. Ive taken as many bull elk with the .300 Win. Feb 21, 2015 #8 OP elkeaterco WKR Joined I shot the Leopard with 140 Partitions but the 120 Barns TTSX is my go to bullet. For this reason, I can certainly understand why somebody would want to hunt with a 6.5 PRC, especially if that person didn't . My choice of the "economy" loads (both the Winchester and Remington loads are priced $47 per box at the local Cabela's) is Remington's 140-grain Core-Lokt round. word-break: normal; I dont like playing games of how far can I go and minimum bullet energy. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Rafe Nielsen of Browning to take a look at a new X-Bolt series rifle. Its so common that it may seem a bit boring, but this is probably the most versatile elk cartridge availableso long as you choose the right bullet. Tough bullets, deep penetration. Best Ammo (Round, Load, Cartridge) for a Successful Elk Hunt. Its superb on elk to 350 yards or a bit more in the hands of a very good rifleman. But wait, theres more. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Thanks, yes I work up with caution, thanks. Recoil is light, and reach is outstanding. Best bullets are the 7mm 155- to 175-grainers, and the .30-caliber 180- to 200-grainers. Do you plan to hit every animal with a rangefinder? However, where I hunt elk with this gun ranges are rarely under 300 yards, and this is also a 12 lb rifle. Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Hop To : Page 3 of 3 : 1: 2: 3: Re: 264 win mag vs 7mm rem mag?? With a .355 bc, it retains that energy way out there as well. Practical distance isnt the same as the max distance a rifle can shoot. I was really concerned about the Berger bullets being substantial enough for elk. Muzzle Velocity: 2,900 fps Muzzle Energy: 3,267 ft/lbs It's so common that it may seem a bit boring, but this. Mag., .30-06, and its other sibling cartridges, and it does so with less recoil. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. 264 Winchester Magnum Uses: The 264 Win Mag can be used on just about any game found in the lower 48 states, as follows - Predators: Such As, Bobcat, Cougar, And Coyote. while they work great at closer ranges, they will fail miserably if you want to push your shots out there. Please email us if you have questions about any of our product listings. Mature bulls have heavy bones, dense muscle, and loads of resilience from years of shrugging off battle wounds. A broadside lung shot can be taken with most softpoint bullets. First, the average bullet weight is encapsulated in the average muzzle energy for the .264 Winchester Magnum. If the .264 was all I had access to I would probably face the fact that its going to cost me a bit of front shoulder meat to kill an elk faster. rifle, but could allow hunters to cover more ground in search of animals. Mag. Our website lists special deals on 9mm Ammo, 10mm Ammo, 45-70 Ammo, 6.5 Creedmoor ammo, 300 Blackout Ammo, 10mm Ammo, 5.56 Ammo, Underwood Ammo, Buffalo Bore Ammo and more special deals on bulk ammo. typically must be handloaded to achieve the above velocity figures. I grew up hunting with one stoked with 150-grain Partition handloads, and I never had a problem cleanly killing a bull. One of my hunting buddies has a 6.5Creedmoor and was telling me on a mule deer hunt how much better it was than my chambering, going to take it elk hunting as well. That performance level is my personal minimum on elk. There's an old saying attributed to elk guides. Mag. I use a Federal ballistic tip in my 308 for whitetails that I wouldn't use for elk because it seems a bit too fragile based on the deer I've taken with it. Shop HAMSKEA RAPTOR PEEP HOUSING - Ontario's best family-owned hunting & fishing store with 24 hour access indoor gun range, indoor archery range & outdoor gear. Both of those are fully stable in a 1-9 at sea level. Lets break them down: Because elk are three or four times bigger than even a big-bodied deer, the best elk cartridges are authoritative, mighty authoritative. Youtube is full of those videos. Kinda like the 243 and 85gr bullet I've used for antlerless deer hunts quite a bit. Since the Barnes "X" came out & now the TSX the 120gr has been my bullet of choice. Too many statistics make my head hurt, and they surely can be used to misrepresent facts, but let me try and simplify this and compare one good, aerodynamic .264 Win. It still will shoot under an inch. | The only elk I have taken was at about 150 yards with a .260, using 140 gr. Of course, any custom riflesmith worth his salt can build a rifle in .264. Only recovered bits and pieces of the bullet, no exit hole. I'd look elsewhere IMHO, but you could buy it and then keep looking. Mag. Run the data on those 140 and 142 gr bullets out of that 9 twist barrel through JBM Ballistics Stability (Sg) calculator and I'll bet you get a surprise. Not a ton of extra horsepower or overkill but plenty if things are right. Of the powders listed I would choose IMR 7977 because of its . is It a model 70 super grade or a sako pre-Garcia you are going to use? Mag. You must log in or register to reply here. Pick a good bullet, shoot accurately, and enjoy the fine dining elk provides. Advertised muzzle velocity is the same as the Remington load: 3,030 fps (my rifle gives 3,010 fps). 50 Stck NOSLER Partiton #16320 Geschosse 6,5MM/.264 - 125gr/8,1g > Jagdgeschoss 70% Restgewicht! Of course, a good handload in the 7mm would close the gap and certainly surpass the 6.5mm projectile in energy, but the comparison shows just how good the .264 is. Also, Norma and Woodleigh offer a few bullets in the 150s to 160 with decent BCs (no round nose). And yes, shots on elk can be far. AJ. Unlike the predecessors .458, .264 and .338 Winchester Magnums it has a longer case and a rather short neck (.264") in order to increase the case capacity. Shaw barrels), A World Record Attempt: Practice Round and Media Day, Interview with Israeli Defense Forces, Part 1. The standard (.30-06) length .264 Winchester Belted Magnum has always been considered overbore and a barrel burner and the recent (2014) .26 Nosler, based on a Remington Ultra Mag case shortened to .30-06 length and necked-down, has greater case capacity (approximately 96 grains of water) than the .264. The 10-mph wind causes it to drift 14 inches at 500 yards and 39 inches at 800. I've never heard anything bad about this caliber either. This unsung cartridge is awesome for a light, short-barreled, all-around elk rifle. Mag. mag well now I have 2 both in pre-64 model 70 Winchesters ! . Attacking the 264 shows just how much popularity it is gaining. If you insist on using a .264 for elk, go with 140gr Partitions or A-Frames (130 gr Accubonds or Sciroccos, minimum). . Avoid quick-opening bullets, especially match bullets; instead, choose controlled-expansion designs intended for hunting larger game. 2 Voll konische Kupferlegierungsjacke . Mag. What I have read seems impressive. Found that bullet in the meat on that side when boning it out. Ill stick my neck out and say it: This is the best 6.5mm cartridge ever devised for hunting. Ik heb dit aan de verhuurder laten weten met de mededeling dat ik de eerstvolgende maand 150 minder huur zou betalen. The 6.5 has cut considerably into the sales of so called main stream cartridges of the past. For the. Plus, ammo is available in just about every sporting goods shop across the West. Its the finest all-around cartridge available for youth, women, and new shooters. The .264 Win. The .378 will kill an elk but not any deader than 6.5 Creedmoor. font-size: 14px; It may not display this or other websites correctly. The 264 mag with one of the ultra slow powders will drive the Barnes 120gr TSX at 3450 to 3500fps from a 26" Bbl. 264 Winchester Magnum / Specifications: Zero333 Aug 12, 2020 #12 Laguna Freak said: Ammo Choice: Hornady Superformance 140-grain Hornady SST. It will go faster, but that's where I'm getting the best groups,. .tg td { If you want fast .30-caliber authority coupled with compact-rifle ergonomics, this is your poison. But, because elk have big antlers and big bodies, some hunters believe it takes an even bigger bullet to kill them. I have a .264, an original M70 with the 26" stainless barrel. Dont cripple yourself with a moderate-velocity cartridge that doesnt handle heavy, high-ballistic-coefficient projectiles well. Proprietary Bonding Process Looking back, I probably should have asked my dad if I could borrow his 300 ultra mag. Features and Specifications: Manufacturer Number: 80633. Mine likes the 142's and RL 33. Second shot entered the right ham and through the 'near' shoulder. The Swede is popular with pragmatic traditionalists, but, like the 6.5-284 Norma, suffers from minimal ammo options plus relatively throttled velocities. Mag. What about the other assumptions? And it came in affordable M70 rifles. Meaning I would tuck that bullet real deep into the front quarter rather than the outlook I had of staying to the outskirts of the front shoulder to not waste any meat. 62x51 20 barrel 30-06 springfield 300 prc (new) 30-378 weatherby 300 h&h magnum 300 remington short action utlra mag 300 norma magnum (new) 300 winchester magnum (new) 300 wsm 300 weatherby . .270 Win. Perhaps my hunting rifle and bullet combo are capable of shooting 550-yards. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? For deer, sheep, antelope I think it would be a sweet rifle-little argument there-however heard mixed info on its adequacy for elk inside of 500 yards. Also no scope, open sights only. The .300 RUM takes magnum .30-caliber performance to the limits of practical. cannot measure up to the .338 Win. JavaScript is disabled. Got a cow a few years back at 330 yards with mine. have been proven in the elk woods from Kentucky to British Columbia. Dozens of indignant elk hunters sent up a wail when the first elk cartridges article went live on F&Sbecause I hadnt included their .300 RUM favorite. load drops only 29 inches at 500 yards and 109 inches at 800. While Im generally not a fan of short magnum cartridges, this one has proven itself a very capable elk cartridge and deserves a place on the list. Later I switched to a 140gr Berger for deer at 2914fps. Barrel length is important to the .264 Win. Before modern rangefinders, it was the cartridge of choice for world-traveling hunters who liked its flat trajectory and emphatic impact. Campfire Ranger. Thanks to current long-range shooting trends, hunters have more and better options than ever. I think there are only about 5 respondents that have personal experience with the .264 WIn Mag. i would love to to take advantage of some texas hospitality. 340 inch = 84. font-size: 18px; padding: 10px 5px; Short awnser is YES. 308 Winchester and. A lightweight .300 Win. Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles 264 win mag vs 7mm rem mag?? Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles 264 win mag: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Hop To : Page 1 of 2 : 1: 2: 264 win mag #440694 02/24/05. To my mind the .300s and .338s make better elk and zebra . I have shot 10 or 11 Elk with a 264 Win Mag. It is based on a necked-down .338 Winchester Magnum case and uses a .264 caliber bullet, making it an ideal choice for those seeking accuracy and performance at extended shooting distances. Whether you prefer the 6.5CM/260 Rem, to 26 Nosler the 6.5 is showing it self to be an outstanding cal.capable of taking mice to heavy game just by changing the bullet. Mag. Not that its a better choice; its just extremely common, and yes, its pretty darned good at making meat. Federal Factory Load: 130-grain Nosler AccuBond (BC: 0.432) at 3,060 fps, 7mm Rem. The accurate answer is it depends. Elk Size Game: Such As, Caribou, Black Bear, Sheep, And Elk. The 130gr AR Hyrbid or the 135gr Berger Classic Hunters would be great. With these numbers, the 264 Winchester Magnum was the immediate long-range, high-velocity, flat-trajectory answer to the western hunter's prayers. The Grendel is too weak for most big game hunters. The 264 was designed for one thing, western elk at long ranges. ABLR, AB, BERGER, EDLX all will work. Long Range Hunting & Shooting .264 Win Mag for Elk ebueker Apr 11, 2009 Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member 1 2 3 Next E ebueker Member Joined Mar 4, 2008 Messages 6 Apr 11, 2009 #1 I'm getting 3100 fps using 140 gr Berger VLDs. Mag. as with all other cartridges, and in every case its been outstanding. to those guys that make a living with them and stay in shape to ENJOY CARRYING 15 LBS AROUND. What is the average weight of an adult male elk? What does this mean? The Bigger Question is, whats YOUR maximum? The Great Debate: What is Your Favorite Caliber? font-family: Arial, sans-serif; SOG FLING THROWING KNIVES PARACORD HANDLE 3pk. This list of the best cartridges for elk hunting starts with the welterweights and moves up to the heavy hitters. For this experiment, well look at three common ways to determine effectiveness. Elk Decoys; Goose Decoys; Moose Decoys; Predator Decoys; Turkey Decoys; . Seems like its just a 6.5 in a necked down 7 mag case. The entrance hole through the rib cage was about 6"x3". I've shot a lot of animals with a 140gr bullet at around 3000fps. Partitions, AccuBond or Barnes, all good bullets. But with this 156 load at elk hunting elevation here in Wyoming, it retains 1500 ft-lbs out to 1175+ yards, and the elk we have taken in the lase several years have ranged from the closest at 500 yds, to the farthest at 910 yds. Hunt lasted all of about 20 minutes. }. That bullet entered just in front of the hip and ended up near the front of the offside neck. Alpha Class Long Range Scope Review - TT, ZCO, Schmidt, March, Vortex, Warner Tool Flat Line Projectile 122gr 6.5 Variant. We have three other primary assumptions being made here. . Sure, some experts have even gone beyond what we consider the max distance. In the question of Is the .264 Winchester Magnum within the ideal range of suitable calibers for elk hunting? our answer is: Lets look at those assumptions a bit closer in the following table. What is the distance this species is typically hunted from? Plus, widely available standard .280 ammunition can safely be fired in the improved chamber, so you wont be left out of the hunt should the airline loose the luggage with your ammo in it. Have taken several truck loads of game with it. Want the best cartridge for elk hunting? Bullet placement is everything. Final analysis: Its not for everyone, but when you want to drive tough, heavy .30-caliber bullets fast, its awesome. Depending on bullet type and construction, the minimum expansion velocity for rifles falls between about 1300 and 2000 fps. The 270 Winchester, 270 WSM, 7WSM and 7mm Rem. Mag. Run what ya brung! C$55.00. Shot placement is the key. For example, having 1,500 ft-lbs of energy to kill a bull elk is a decent barometer, but elk have also been killed with far less energy when excellent shot placement and good bullet construction are in play. Fine options include the old .264 Win. Mag. The Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun is one of the most popular home defense shotguns on the market. But dont try to punch a raking shot through a bulls hipit doesnt have the juice for that. Mag. border-width: 1px; Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. Those who prefer the traditional cartridges are having a difficult time seeing their favorite cartridges being over shadowed by the 6.5. which is why they attack it. ABLR is my preference. This isn't your grandpa's muzzleloading system. It will work. Initially chambered in Winchester's "Westerner" Model 70, it was meant to fill the needs of far-shooting mule deer and elk hunters. Again, the goal of this article is simply to address the question of whether .264 Winchester Magnum is within the ideal range of suitable calibers to harvest elk - and to this question, the response again is yes, the .264 Winchester Magnum is A GOOD CHOICE for elk hunting. Mag. Well, that would limit most hunting rifles to between 150 and 400-yards. font-size: 18px; might produce recoil similar to a 9.5-pound .338 Lapua Mag. Never ever shoot more than two shots with out a cool down. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. There's an old saying attributed to elk guides. Is this round (bullet) sufficient for Elk? As far as ammo goes, both Winchester and Remington still produce .264 Win. 3-groove barrels are reputed to last a little longer than barrels with more grooves. } The .338 Win. Pick a Marlin M1895 or a Winchester Model 1886 and hunt happy in the knowledge that youve got bull-thumping wallop in every thumb-sized cartridge. 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